The original question: I know we exercised the topic a bit this summer, but until I get a lot more property I can't run the parallel 580' Beverages towards Europe. What I can run is about 200'. Opinions requested: Would it be better to have a 200' Beverage or EWE for 80/160?? ....................................................... The responses: I had a 280 'short' beverage last year and also had a EWE that I tried. They both work. The EWE seemed better to EU but the Beverage was more towards Africa than EU. The limited modeling I've done shows a short beverage is better than NO beverage. I plan to have at least 3 EWE this season PLUS the short bev. The key is winding the transformers on good cores and getting a good match. ....................... W8CAR ....................................................... I'm also wondering which antenna would be best for an acre lot. Have done some modelling with EZNEC and I think a EWE might be best, especially for use on both bands. .......................K0OD ....................................................... I run two shorty beverages though fairly dense forest during the winter. They are 300ft long. I find this short length even to be very effective. As might be expected, they are better on 80 than 160, but there's very little that I can't copy on top band due to noise. I haven't put up an EWE nor one of the K6STI loops yet, but they look simple enough to do both or all three and compare. I suspect over a period of time you would see that each might be superior at a given time.........K7SV ....................................................... I put up a EWE antenna and I also am constantly comparing it against the other guys on the cluster who have beverages and it's my opinion that a EWE is better than nothing but at no time compares to a beverage. There are lots of variables and this may factor in but I am comparing to guys with beverages laying in drainage ditches who hear better. I even checked the sensitivity of my receiver just to make sure it wasn't a problem on my end... For a guy who lives on a city lot 100x120 and wants to have a receive antenna on 160 then the EWE is the only choice..but make no mistake there is no free lunch and a EWE can't compare to a beverage...in my opinion........................K9SD ******************************************************** So, the reviews are a bit mixed. Something is definitely better than nothing. But it seems to be a toss up as to whether the EWE is better than a short Beverage. Looks like more field data on the EWE is needed. I'm re-working the Beverages at K1NG for the season. Most of them are around 200' or so. I hope to install a EWE in line with the European Beverage using the KA2WVL 80/160 compromise dimensions (15'*38'*15') terminated with 840 ohms. I'm connecting through K2ZJ's Beverage Box for impedance matching and preamplification. We'll see (or better yet: hear) what happens when the EWE is compared to the Beverages during CQWW. If the EWE's seem to play OK at John's, I'll install a few at KD1NG as well. Thanks for the inputs. 73 James KD1NG >> setzler@c813.npt.nuwc.navy.mil <<